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Rich,
Articles was originally written by splittingred who has moved on to BigCommerce. We forked his repository and did provide a release for it to try to get it ready for 2.3. The challenge is that few people want to take on the maintenance of someone elses code/extra. It's hard enough to attract contributors to the Revo project itself, let alone an Extra. We've sought developers to adopt it and we're still seeking someone to adopt it as we know how many people use it. We may be able to get critical fixes into it and get releases out.
For new sites, my personal choice would be to use Collections+getResources+Tagger+Quip to build blogs or other non-hierarchical documents.
That being said, if there are pull requests in Git for Articles fixes, we may be able to get those integrated and released. I'd say based on the recent experience, it's not looking good for anyone to take on Articles.
My personal wish would be to have a way to import Articles resources into Collections and have an easy way to adjust the templates so that it can be a quick change.
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I hope MODX isn't actively discouraging the continued maintenance of Articles. What will happen to the 40,000+ existing installations? That makes a lot of sites that are now in Limbo and can't move forward without considerable dismantling and re-building.
I'm with Lucy. My blog uses Articles and has 80+ posts. It took a lot of work to get it to operate the way I wanted it to. Articles has a lot of moving parts and I'm sure a Blog based on Collections does as well. I'd sure hate to start over.
Articles also has a lot of UI mojo for moderating comments, showing latest posts and latest comments, tag listing, archives, permalinks, etc. I don't see that in Collections -- if it's there, it's not mentioned in the brief documentation here:
http://rtfm.modx.com/extras/revo/collections. When you install Articles, you have a full-featured blog right away. I haven't used Collections, but it looks like you have to roll your own blog by integrating the various components yourself. I hope I'm wrong.
Can anyone who has done the migration from Articles to Collections provide information on how much work is involved and what the steps are?
[ed. note: BobRay last edited this post 11 years, 11 months ago.]
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We're not at all discouraging the development and use of Articles however the original developer of Articles (among many other MODX Extras) moved on in 2013 and we've not found a developer interested in taking on the maintenance of the project. We certainly would like to have Articles adopted and given new life and a long future as a platform on which to build a blog.
I fully acknowledge that it's a labour intensive process to move from Collections or Grid Class Key. John @theboxer Peca may have some thoughts on making this simpler. A longer term strategy would be to replace Articles with a new blog that uses the set of Extras I suggested above, with basic templates in place as a single package.
I personally think that it makes a tonne of sense to keep your blogs in Articles and see if someone can at least patch it for now so the RSS feeds work and then we put a call out for someone to take on maintaining Articles, at least to be a integration manager for accepting and evaluating other people's patches and issues.
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Thanks Jay, that helps in understanding the situation.
BTW, I have an RSS feed working in Articles using getResources (though I haven't upgraded Articles in a while). Is the RSS feed thing an issue with a specific Articles upgrade or a general problem?
If it's an upgrade issue, it would be a good opportunity for someone who is experiencing it to use Git bisect.
http://webchick.net/node/99
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If you're using getResources to generate your RSS feeds this will not be an issue. It's the native RSS feeds that were broken due to the changes to the routing class in or around Articles 1.7.8 that automatically gives you a feed url at mysite.com/blog/rssfeed.rss based on setting the property of RSS Alias as shown here:
http://rtfm.modx.com/extras/revo/articles/articles.creating-a-blog
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Ah. IIRC, I couldn't get the native RSS feed to work so I went to getResources. This was in Articles 1.6.5.
The source code of the feed looks pretty good. What happens if you remove the cdata output modifier?
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In Articles, there is no access to the resource of the RSS feed, so you cannot fix the MODX weakness manually.
You *can* create your own RSS feed resource, though, and put a link to it in the Articles Tpl. That's what I did to begin with at Bob's Guides and it's still working AFAIK.
[ed. note: BobRay last edited this post 11 years, 9 months ago.]