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    Personally I would also like to stick with jquery. Unfortunately there are some compatibility issues with the latest version and plugins like managermanager. I’m not much into java script, so I would appreciate some input about how difficult it is to use several frameworks and perhaps different versions in one document.

    Apart from that. Do you like how the different form fields are split up among the tabs (original and new)?

    I mean does the current order support you while writing an article or do you think a difficult order would be easier to understand an more convenient?

    Example: How about merging "General" and "Document Content" together, moving "Use template", "Menu title", "Menu index", "Show in menu" and "Document parent" to the page settings tab. From my point of view this would support the way I work much more. Going though all the document text fields and latter adding organizational information.

    Although this will be obsolete in the long run, I can see some immediate benefits for "early adopters"
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      If I were tweaking the Edit Document view in the Manager for my own personal use I would completely nuke the Meta Keywords and Preview tabs and merge the General and Page Settings tab (horizontally, not vertically). A lot of the settings in Page Settings are too crucial to hide, imho, whereas I rarely use the Link Attributes field. The Meta Keywords tab is completely deprecated (in my reality anyway), and I expect that the Preview tab is one of the primary causes of Manager sluggishness when editing (it would need to be turned off completely, not just hidden via CSS).

      But that’s just my opinion...
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        But that’s just my opinion...
        Good points, I agree. Keep it as lean as possible. Also I would like to have collapsible headers that had a memory (like the tabs do) so that you could collapse a part that you are not working with at the moment (specially the content field).
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          Quote from: ZAP at Feb 24, 2009, 10:38 AM

          If I were tweaking the Edit Document view in the Manager for my own personal use I would completely nuke the Meta Keywords and Preview tabs and merge the General and Page Settings tab (horizontally, not vertically). A lot of the settings in Page Settings are too crucial to hide, imho, whereas I rarely use the Link Attributes field. The Meta Keywords tab is completely deprecated (in my reality anyway), and I expect that the Preview tab is one of the primary causes of Manager sluggishness when editing (it would need to be turned off completely, not just hidden via CSS).

          But that’s just my opinion...

          +1 for all of these ideas. Personally, I’d nuke the Preview altogether in the Create/Edit document panel screen. The sooner people learn to use the right-click preview from the tree or open the doc in a separate browser the better.
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            OK, attached to this post you will find my latest version.

            From now on I’ll continue with hammering some php into mutate_content_dynamic.php (I should have done that from the beginning...). Buidling all those tags from hand is just too boring. For now I’ll setup some routine grabbing it’s contents from an array containing all relevant data. With some modifications to the database we can  build the whole form later automatically (this is the point where I would like to hear "I don’t have anything interesting to do right now, can I help you?").

            Have fun!

            pepebe

            P.S. The attached readme file will be outdate by now. Ignore all parts that doesn’t make sense.

            P.P.S Regarding a skype conference. My blootooth headset sucks. I have one from motorola and I’m F**$"§$FS unable to make it work either with my ubuntu desktop nor with my winxp notebook. I want a mac! A friend of mine managed to make it work with his apple in less than 2 minutes.
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              Another question.

              Are there any other plugins than managermanager you know of that will be effected by a changed markup?
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                Quote from: pepebe at Feb 24, 2009, 01:20 PM

                P.P.S Regarding a skype conference. My blootooth headset sucks. I have one from motorola and I’m F**$"§$FS unable to make it work either with my ubuntu desktop nor with my winxp notebook. I want a mac! A friend of mine managed to make it work with his apple in less than 2 minutes.
                Give your friend your headset as a gift, and buy yourself a new one. You’ll save about $2000 over buying a Mac. Plus you don’t want to miss out on Jaunty Jackalope and Karmic Koala, do you (with names like those, they gotta be good)?
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                  might be the plugin I am working on: http://modxcms.com/forums/index.php/topic,32599.0.html
                  As soon as I have time I am gonna have a look at the changes you made.

                  Will this change be part of a future release?

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                    @xpix

                    The bad news: If his project goes (hard)core, I#m afraid it will have an impact on your work. The good news: It might become easier.

                    just an example from the generated source:

                      <fieldset class="tab-page" id="settings_general" >
                        <legend class="tab">General</legend>
                        <!-- ppb: Insert javascript to show/hide settings_general fieldset content -->
                        <script type="text/javascript">tpSettings.addTabPage( document.getElementById( "settings_general" ) );</script>
                         <h3>General</h3>
                          <dl>
                            <dt class="document_title">
                              <label>Title</label>
                              <p>Type the name/title of the document here. Try to avoid using backslashes in the name!</p>
                            </dt>
                            <dd class="document_title">
                              <input name="pagetitle" type="text" maxlength="255" value="" class="inputBox" onchange="documentDirty=true;" spellcheck="true" />
                              <img class="helpbutton" 
                                   src="media/style/MODxGreen/images/icons/b02_trans.gif"
                                   onmouseover="this.src='media/style/MODxGreen/images/icons/b02.gif';" 
                                   onmouseout="this.src='media/style/MODxGreen/images/icons/b02_trans.gif';" 
                                   alt="Type the name/title of the document here. Try to avoid using backslashes in the name!" 
                                   onclick="alert(this.alt);"
                              />
                            </dd>
                       </dl>
                    ...
                    ...
                    ...
                    </fieldset


                    The structure is the same for all field elements within the create/edit form. Each field has it’s own <dt class="fieldname"><label>Fieldname</label></dt> and <dd class="fieldname"><input /></dd> a group of fields is inside <fieldset> element that can be adressed by its unique id (for example "settings_general"). That it. Nice an clean.

                    I think that’s an improvement.

                    General question to all: Please have a look at the ugly chunk of code presenting the help button for each form item. How important is it for you to have those buttons? What would you prefer. the css tooltips or the javascrip alert window?



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                      Interesting how old discussions popup again so now and then. The arguments for and against jQuery or Mootools have been discussed exhaustively before. Really the arguments never go beyond "what I know best" or "what I’m most familiar with". Statements about ManagerManager using jQuery as an argument for jQuery being a better choice holds no merit whatsoever. It’s just as easy to build a mootools version if you know mootools.

                      Before making or proposing drastic javascript changes to the modx backend I’d like to see some informed arguments why one would be better over the other, not ones based on personal preference. I’m not so sure if jQuery would win in a such a discussion. (In the discussion mentioned above I used to be a jQuery proponent if you must know)

                      For the rest I’m really happy that someone is tackling the backend. I’m less in favour of the mouse wheel than some apparently but anything that makes it more consistent and easier to theme is a plus. Good for you pepebe!