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I know that. I'm just saying, it's not dying.
I think MODx has a big potential but as usual it's all about the money and the effort.
If there are enough money and enthusiasts with effort to maintain and develop MODx it will have a great future. Maybe some donation campaigns will be helpful the question is how they will be organized and if there will be some transparency.
There are a lot of things to be done and improved.
For example the forum can be much more better organized and maintained because Slack is not a forum post system it’s for chat. I’ve logged in there for couple of times but there are no search possibilities like in the forums - to discuss, to check for solutions etc., and if you write something in Slack it will be gone into the wild after couple of hours and nobody will see it. It's just about chat and discussion some ideas or topics at the moment.
The rtfm for documentation can also be improved - more user friendly tutorials with examples and screenshots etc. Blog post newsfeeds also.
I like MODx and want to develope my customer's websites with this system also in the future. It has a lot of advantages and good stuff inside. Wordpres, Joomla and Magento are monsters as mtalvenheimo said but these systems have also their downsides. And MODx has its advantages in comparison with them.
peace&love / bike&ride
Also want to say that slack seems not to be the answer. As we all know, the community benefits a lot from a searchable db of knowledge about development. While the forum certainly isn't perfect, it is searchable which helps more people and allows knowledge to be slowly added to. We could do more in this regard, but not searchable should be unacceptable for a support solution.
mtalvenheimo it does seem like Modx users are more independent developers or small business owners rather than tech workers looking for jobs in big companies. I am surprised that big companies are really stuck using WP though. Modx is probably more in the small and medium-sized companies, for various reasons. In big companies it will be very hard and risky to propose using an unknown or unproven solution, so they are all stuck using Joomla, poor suckers.
For the people that have deeper knowledge of global Modx usage, I think tech people and devs (actually everybody) are impressed when a system can be shown to handle serious scale. Can anyone point out an extremely large site (by any terms) running Modx? I would like to know the biggest three sites, hopefully very large but in different ways, pageviews users etc.
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Indeed documentation has always been a sore point for MODX. As far as Slack goes, I'm putting some of it into the Cookbook, although I should do more.
http://modxcookbook.com
I've only briefly scanned this thread but I've shared similar thoughts to the op over the last year or so. Whilst the forum activity isn't a true representation of modx activity (see slack & github) it is unfortunately the impression that comes across. It would be great to see the forums sorted out, there's a whole thread on it somewhere, not sure what came of it. I did recently go on to slack to search back for something only to discover there is limited history.
Regarding some of the other issues, Revo etc. For me, MODX Cloud has put many of these concerns to rest. It really does take away many of the headaches associated with moving sites, installations and so on. Snapshots, backups, upgrades are all huge timesavers. The ability to create staging sites and move them to production with ease; being able to easily roll back with a backup or snapshot if something gets fried. These are just some of the features I find to be a huge benefit. I've now also managed to sort out a satisfactory workflow with the cloud and git, something which was a bit of a deal breaker for me.
Aside from MODX I've used Opencart recently, umm it was an okay experience if a little quirky and I still use WP when forced. There's some really nice stuff going on with flat file cms, I plan to give one of these a spin for some smaller jobs.
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I liked Grav, I just hope they outgrow their use of exec and shell_exec. They seemed to think everybody should have their own servers, or at least a VPS to be able to control their server configuration.
