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    Good luck! I feel for ya, I much prefer them clueless clients over "(miss)informed" ones. heh... Plus you'll probably make more in the long run fiddling with it all.

    I'm right now on the fence with a client who won't pay to move to MODX from static majorly fup'd table layouts (ACK!). Which I despise and struggle with the thousands of previous WSIWYG edits that provide me "hours" to bill for. VS just saving myself the agony and moving the MODX install I already placed in a subfolder and developed mostly. Over a year ago. 10 minutes and and my problems are solved, but I stand on principal and he's not getting MODX till he freakin pays for the site. Last month alone he paid 1/4 of my very cheap quote in extra hours editing ONE page for his emergency needs, so it's his loss and my gain technically.

    I think the hardest part with your site will be redirecting per device size to the container. I am not exactly skilled at .htaccess, but I'm not sure it'll be simple to media query with modrewrite. I'm sure there's a way though.
      Frogabog- MODX Websites in Portland Oregon
      "Do yourself a favor and get a copy of "MODX - The Official Guide" by Bob Ray. Read it.
      Having server issues? These guys have MODX Hosting perfected - SkyToaster
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      Haha, I feel for you too! Even though you're way is probably better because it keeps the flow more steady I do like to just finish one project and let it go. For this project I'm a third part so my arguments might not even reach the client, but it's also good because it works both ways! smiley

      As for the redirection I've found this php script which has been working well for another project I've done. http://code.google.com/p/php-mobile-detect/wiki/Mobile_Detect
      I still prefer media queries as much as I can but this works very well when they dont suffice! Hope it can help you and/or someone else as well!
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        Thank you Phacer, bookmarked that. It very well may come in handy.

        I re-read my post... I should have said "last month he was billed for 1/4..." since payment is yet to be received. I think he's passing bricks over the $ and ignoring my requests.

        Thus my post a minute ago regarding contracts in the Web Developer's Lounge. I'm way too nice and so far have mostly worked with people I know, or people who know people I know. So I get skrewed. I charge by the second with a timer because it's easy, and I know I should be charging by 1/4 hour but that would cause more bricks to lodge in place... without prior contractual agreement. Actually, I know the bricks will never dislodge regardless, but for new clients I wish to lay it all out up front and prevent possible future skrewings.
          Frogabog- MODX Websites in Portland Oregon
          "Do yourself a favor and get a copy of "MODX - The Official Guide" by Bob Ray. Read it.
          Having server issues? These guys have MODX Hosting perfected - SkyToaster
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          Wooohooo! After a little more convincing they changed their minds to have a responsive design instead! =)
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            André
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            Quote from: frogabog at Jan 07, 2013, 04:06 PM
            Thank you Phacer, bookmarked that. It very well may come in handy.

            I re-read my post... I should have said "last month he was billed for 1/4..." since payment is yet to be received. I think he's passing bricks over the $ and ignoring my requests.

            Thus my post a minute ago regarding contracts in the Web Developer's Lounge. I'm way too nice and so far have mostly worked with people I know, or people who know people I know. So I get skrewed. I charge by the second with a timer because it's easy, and I know I should be charging by 1/4 hour but that would cause more bricks to lodge in place... without prior contractual agreement. Actually, I know the bricks will never dislodge regardless, but for new clients I wish to lay it all out up front and prevent possible future skrewings.

            Even though I still take work from friends sometimes I'm learning to say no more and more. But what has helped me before is to be very clear with the conditions before I take the job. The second thing is to keep everything documented, in emails as an example. Because then you can always go back and check what you agreed upon. And if they call you to ask if you can make a change just tell them that they should write it in an email before doing anything. Or maybe that you're in a bad situation right now and the quickest way for them would be to send an email. Then if you have decided on an hourly rate before, you write back telling them your time estimation with the price you agreed upon from the start before starting the work. Then it works as an reminder for them as well that you dont work for free.

            Be tough, in a nice way! =)
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              André