Why is Modx not very popular?

Hi,

I think Modx is great and I try to use it on most projects. I have a client who wants to which platforms (currently using DNN). They want to move away from DNN mostly cause it is sh%t but also there is no support in Australia for DNN (mostly cause it is sh%t).

I looked around for some stats on Modx to support my claim they should choose Modx. But unfortunately I found stats, such as http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/cm-modx/all/all which do not support my claim.

I cannot convince a client who is looking for a CMS they feel is always going to be supported to choose Modx when market share seems to be falling.

Does anyone have stats that paint a more positive picture?

Since many people (clients) have not heard of Modx I need put forward a solid arguement on why they should choose Modx over really popular, well known CMS that are support by most web studios.

How can we get Modx out there!?

Not sure how accurate those stats are but you may be better looking on the downloads page, for example:

Revolution 2.2.0-rc1
Released Nov 17, 2011 with 1,964 downloads

Revolution 2.2.0-rc2
Released Dec 16, 2011 with 720 downloads

Revolution 2.2.0-rc3
Released Dec 22, 2011 with 1,197 downloads

Revolution 2.2.2-pl.
Released May 02, 2012 with 13,342 In less than a month !!, that's over 500 downloads a day for 1 version of revo

Evo:

Released Mar 08, 2012 with 12,832 downloads

This is a related thread: https://forums.modx.com/thread/76829/free-marketing-advice-for-modx
The short answer to your question: MODX is a niche product that target a specific group of people.

Compared to Drupal, Joomla, and WordPress, MODX is fairly new. There's no question, though, that the number of users is growing rapidly.


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PLEASE, PLEASE specify the version of MODX you are using.
MODX info for everyone: http://bobsguides.com/modx.html

People want fast solutions where they can just click and install things and never bother having to customise the components.

MODx does not have a "click-and-ready" feature when working with modules, components etc, it has snippets which needs parameters and be placed in the templates or pages.

E107 and Joomla for instance, has the "click-and-ready" feature, if you want a news system with commenting system. Then you just install the component and tick the radioboxes if you want commenting or not.

"What can not be done using MODx?"

MODx is simply for developers, coders and normal users who wants something different and unusual. [ed. note: bowkilled last edited this post 14 years, 4 months ago.]

MODX has or 'almost' has most of these features. But every single one user have to get them working together on his own. I think designation of MODX as developer's best CMS impacts too much quality of it's development.

if you need a website, chances are you need MODx.

—thrash.me

Brilliant!

Quote from: khyrlik at May 29, 2012, 09:32 AM

MODX has or 'almost' has most of these features. But every single one user have to get them working together on his own. I think designation of MODX as developer's best CMS impacts too much quality of it's development.

What i meant was that MODx needs people to read the "how-to" manual before they can start working on their content.

With Joomla, Drupal or e107 all you have to do is to navigate in the menus (no need to read any manual)..

Quote from: bowkilled at May 30, 2012, 12:46 AM

What i meant was that MODx needs people to read the "how-to" manual before they can start working on their content.

That's the price you have to pay for complete freedom and precise HTML code output. With point and click modules you will always end up with black box solutions and can not control the code output.

MODX best audience is serious web developers/designers. Actually if you look at the MODX community I have never encountered so many professional developers/designers involved with open source CMS/CMF. With Joomla, Drupal, WordPress and many others the majority of community members are hobbyists or home users (of course there is also many professional developers/designers involved but the overall percentage is much lower compared to MODX).

Quote from: bowkilled at May 30, 2012, 12:46 AM

Quote from: khyrlik at May 29, 2012, 09:32 AM

MODX has or 'almost' has most of these features. But every single one user have to get them working together on his own. I think designation of MODX as developer's best CMS impacts too much quality of it's development.

What i meant was that MODx needs people to read the "how-to" manual before they can start working on their content.

With Joomla, Drupal or e107 all you have to do is to navigate in the menus (no need to read any manual)..

I agree qith you and it's no problem at all with having to learn a bit and it's not simple, easy, 'just fill the fields' box.
But:
- MODX could be released as such 'almost ready' package, much of the work is done already (extras, etc). Problems that exist: Buggy extras, low quality control on releases, some important bugs are long time unfixed, no making sure that every important extra works together; There is no complete working startup package - even a developer would appreciate this, not because it needs such site but for a smooth introduction to MODXing. At the moment MODX is not 'trustable'. You can't get it and be sure that everything works. You have to check it by yourself or spend days on working working and working to some basic site ready. Every new to MODX developer have to do the same work again and again. What for ?
- Being CMS for developers shouldn't mean that a developer have to do many things by himself. Developer can do if it needs to and this is the way to gain popularity. As of now phrase 'MODX is for developers' is excuse for many things in MODX that go wrong like bugs, low quality of code, poor documentation, no mid and advanced tutorials, etc.
- Slogans are misleading. They look like Bill Gates welcoming you to Microsoft and promising that you will be CEO at some day but after signing contract it appears that you start in call center.