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    Hello,

    Just wondering if anyone has had any success with outsourcing to overseas website development companies?

    I am in Australia and considering outsourcing for a couple of upcoming website projects. I am currently looking at a couple of companies from India, the Philippines and Poland.

    Any recommendations on who to use?

    Any good / bad experiences you would like to share?

    Appreciate any feedback.
      Web design Adelaide
      http://gocreate.com.au
    • I've personally had less than optimal experiences working with outsource companies on projects. If you have high standards on your code, markup and css, this can be very challenging, additionally, I've found it's much better to pay more per hour for reputable freelancers to with whom you can work more quickly and that have a proven track record and references for completing projects in the area you need. Often you can spend more time detailing project scope and explaining things that you much of your savings is lost in time of your productivity.

      I stopped using outsourcing companies in India about 5 years ago because the hourly rates were getting high and quality hadn't improved much. There are certainly good outsourcing companies out there but they are hard to find and even harder to keep.

      There are many MODX developers who live in countries where the currency is such that they are very affordable to places like Australia, North America and Western Europe.
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        Quote from: smashingred at May 17, 2012, 11:27 AM
        I've personally had less than optimal experiences working with outsource companies on projects. If you have high standards on your code, markup and css, this can be very challenging, additionally, I've found it's much better to pay more per hour for reputable freelancers to with whom you can work more quickly and that have a proven track record and references for completing projects in the area you need. Often you can spend more time detailing project scope and explaining things that you much of your savings is lost in time of your productivity.

        I stopped using outsourcing companies in India about 5 years ago because the hourly rates were getting high and quality hadn't improved much. There are certainly good outsourcing companies out there but they are hard to find and even harder to keep.

        There are many MODX developers who live in countries where the currency is such that they are very affordable to places like Australia, North America and Western Europe.

        +1, or better +2.
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          Hi,

          I am willing to do some freelancing. I have built 40+ MODX sites (from simple to quite complex) and if you are interested you can contact me at [email protected] and then we can go into details (previous projects, pricing, deadlines...)

          Instead of my resume you can check my linkedin profile http://hr.linkedin.com/pub/antonio-zdilar/21/973/baa wink

          Regards
            Antonio Zdilar
            linearvector.com
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            Thanks for the input Jay and microcipcip. I think based on the feedback above I will create a brief and post it in the commercial section of the forum and see how I go.

            Hi Blankcheck, Thanks for the post. I just need to finish a project and then I will put the brief together. I will contact you when it is ready for quoting / discussion.

            Have a great day.
              Web design Adelaide
              http://gocreate.com.au
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              Hi Blankcheck,
              I have posted with a brief for the project if you are still interested:
              http://forums.modx.com/thread/77484/web-design-project---see-attached-brief#dis-post-427495
                Web design Adelaide
                http://gocreate.com.au
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                Thanks nickf08,

                I sent you a quote.

                Regards
                  Antonio Zdilar
                  linearvector.com
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                    Just my two cents...sorry for bumping!

                    The subject of outsourcing/offshoring is quite complex. Thinking of it from an economics point of view (i.e. Globalization), outsourcing/offshoring would happen in almost every industry where the benefits of this process would yield tangible and substantial value either in terms of cost savings or future benefits.

                    Outsourcing can and does happen within the borders of a country. For example, wages in San Francisco for software developers is a lot higher than the average or median wages in other parts of the US. Not all companies can afford to have all their employees being high wage earners. So, most of them would have satellite offices or subdivisions in other parts of the country where the cost of living is lower (borrowing a concept from real-estate - location is important), and hence wages are lower.

                    Does that mean that if you are living in San Francisco you should worry about your job being outsourced to other parts of the US?

                    What I have experienced (in other industries) and what my software developer friends have experienced is that it is highly subjective.

                    These are the things my software developer friends have told me that have helped them retain their jobs:

                    Be good at what you do. Make yourself valuable to your company
                    Don’t underestimate the importance of human interaction. Even though the software industry values technical skills, what they told me is that the difference between two equally skilled employees is often the relationships that an individual nurtures and makes an effort to maintain.
                    Communication skills ARE IMPORTANT - even for skilled, technical people. They have seen some highly skilled people have their jobs outsourced. At the same time, they have also observed average technically skilled people with good communication skills retain their jobs.
                    There may come a time when the current beneficiaries of outsourcing (for example the BRIC countries) would themselves be outsourcing to still other countries. (e.g. Brazil, Russia, India, China outsourcing to parts of Africa, Vietnam, Philippines, Indonesia, etc.)

                    This discussion is closed to further replies. Keep calm and carry on.