Web permissions document group question

How do these two relate to one another ?

ie #1 you have a document (open to public) with check webuser snippet that checks to see if this user has access to the doc before it allows them access

or

ie #2 you have a document that clearly belongs to a web permissions group aka (private)

is either fine or in example #1 would the doc still be by public if they guess the url ?

I could see the page with the checkuser not giving them access but if you have an area with pages for a particular webuser group would these still be protected if they didn’t belong to a group ?

This is also a bit confusing to me, as I would like to have it so that web users can create / edit / delete documents themselves (those belonging to them, off coarse)

I think I found my answer, if a doc is not part of a web permissions group then it will be accessible by the url with ID to anyone. if this is true then not sure what the need is for checkuser snippet, if a document is part of a group then if the user is in that group they should be able to access that doc making checkuser obsolete ? ?

on a similiar note, if you have a user setup with an ID to redirect to upon logging in this is yet another thing that would make the checkuser snippet not necessary.

Anyone have anything to add ?

if this is true then not sure what the need is for checkuser snippet, if a document is part of a group then if the user is in that group they should be able to access that doc making checkuser obsolete ? ?

Do you mean the MemberCheck snippet? If that’s the case, then the snippet should be used when you have a public page where only part of the page should be displayable to logged in users. (for example, a custom navigation menu)

ah I see that makes good sense in order to make the menu visble so they can click on it