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    Quote from: rossco at Mar 27, 2009, 07:01 AM

    I can’t help but think of it in a simple but ignorant way... why can’t you just pass the same username/password from SMF to the MODx username/password fields in the modx_ database.  If the user signs in to the forum or modx it’s saved in a cookie that is shared by the 2 platforms which means no sign in is needed once signed in from either or login forms.  I know it’s not as simple as that but if we break down exactly what is needed in elements perhaps there’s a way to piece it together.  
    As a slight distraction - before realising that a forum framework for MODx would be a lot cleaner and simpler, I started to build a system that would allow single-sign-on for any given domain. It worked by providing an API to the developer to include where they wished (be that behind MODx’s authentication or their own custom auth area). It then "trusted" the primary login system and would go around signing the user into the other systems on the domain (APIs, cookie/db setting etc). It would also synchronise all of their relevant profile fields and allow information to be used across the site and subdomains. It’s possible, safe and could be excellent. People could share connectors for each CMS, Forum, Blogger etc and never have to build a bridge again.

    However, it distracted me from MODx and I favoured the challenge of building a forum over this. If anyone’s interested, visit http://sourceforge.net/projects/unityauthsystem/. Someone might like the idea.

    Back to the present day...

    Quote from: rossco at Mar 31, 2009, 10:36 AM


    Rossco - If you disagree with all that was discussed, what do you believe the ABC should be?
      No sign of me disagreeing... I said the ideas are making the forum solution complex.  The idea of a forum was something fairly simple and not a full blown forum build. 

    I personally don’t see private messaging systems, polls etc as the basics... I would say that was added extras as it’s something that going to extend the dev side quite a bit.

    The basics in my eyes is being able to create and edit your own posts, create new threads.  Admins can edit and delete posts, lock a thread, create forum rooms.  I’m not jumping on anyone’s ideas, I would love all the added extras but as I said, if it’s over complex it might end up putting those off who are willing to help for free or think it’s too costly in time.

    We all want a forum and to keep time and costs down... that’s all I meant by ABC. 
    Sorry about that. I think in fact we are in complete agreement then. I was suggesting that we find a way to pare those off, allowing us to concentrate on the core forum parts, and the others as and when time permits. In fact, I found your post earlier highlighting exactly what you are suggesting. My apologies!
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      Foundation in this case would be a larger group of active participants in the development process. I agree with rossco that a simple, focused forum in the vein of Vanilla or Pun would be the most appropriate, and wait for more robust bridges on Revo down the road.
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        I’m also agree with rossco’s posts.

        That’s why i keep talking about fluxbb who is a simple Forum engine (without PM, Polls etc..), lightweight and pretty straight forward.
        I played with it a little and the wordpress bridge (as example) but the result was not satisfying.

        We still need to allow people to make plugin for the forum system as basic a feature.
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          I think FluxBB is a PunBB fork, for reference.
            Ryan Thrash, MODX Co-Founder
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            I’m glad I wasn’t seen to be downing ideas... I truly am hopeful that we can all pitch in together and get some sort of forum sorted.

            I have looked at Vanilla and I do like the simplistic approach to a forum... that idea would be nice for a medium sized community.

            Would you unityauthsystem be of use within modx for working with other forum software out of interest?
              Ross Sivills - MD AugmentBLU Edinburgh, Scotland UK
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              Hi,

              btw, the german MODx-Forum is Vanilla...it’s basic, but sufficient!

              http://www.modxcms.de/forum/

              thank you guys for working on it  wink

              jan
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                Quote from: rthrash at Mar 31, 2009, 12:22 PM

                I think FluxBB is a PunBB fork, for reference.
                yes it is!

                But it’s a little more complicated so that’s why i do prefer refering to fluxbb. PunBB is owned by a private company, and all the original dev has gone on the fluxbb way.
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                  Quote from: sharkbait at Mar 31, 2009, 12:34 PM

                  Hi,

                  btw, the german MODx-Forum is Vanilla...it’s basic, but sufficient!

                  http://www.modxcms.de/forum/

                  thank you guys for working on it wink

                  jan

                  Yeah I checked it out a while back and asked someone about it to see if they would be willing to share how it was done with the community... I never heard back.

                    Ross Sivills - MD AugmentBLU Edinburgh, Scotland UK
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                    I never heard back
                    sad

                    i just read it’s just a standalone Vanilla-installation, just the webuser are synct. + FeedX
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                      Quote from: rossco at Mar 31, 2009, 12:31 PM

                      Would your unityauthsystem be of use within modx for working with other forum software out of interest?  
                      The idea was that it would work with anything, as connectors (my own terminology, bridges, plugins whatever) could be designed for each platform once, and would need only simple modifications, if anything, for a given installation. I don’t want to distract this thread with it, but thought it might be useful if given some more time.

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                      Vanilla/simplicity
                      Sounds excellent to me. I will throw my ideas in and explore pathways in some detail, but please don’t assume I’m ever stuck! I actually agree with this idea, but generally will work with the crowd rather than against, even if I disagreed. I just make my thoughts known before in case they hadn’t been considered.

                      I’m keen to see this happen, and you all have strong ideas that will work. I’ll give whatever I can to help, in time, energy and expertise.