EH... just wanted to respond on this one. The Man Can is correct... call the page in question uncached and call the jot snippet cached... works fine as long as you’re okay with page content being uncached.
Same issue here. If PHx is installed = no costum display order with JOT Placeholders. So I had to disable PHx, because I can’t ask my costumers to disable documents caches manually for every blog article :-(
I have been experiencing the same issue but it’s clearly stated in the Jot documentation :
Best practise for including comments
The best practise for comment-enabling your documents is to create a chunk for each type of Jot call you will use. Include each chunk in a template and link it to your articles. Try to avoid direct jot calls in the content field of a document (even if it’s a chunk). http://wiki.modxcms.com/index.php/Jot
If it’s of any interrest, the way I went around the issue is have two Jot calls, one for comments and one for the form (it’s not as granular a control as placeholders but it’s enough for me...) :
[!Jot? &action=`comments` &subscribe=`1` &pagination=`10` &css=`0`!]
[!Jot? &action=`form` &tplForm=`FormulaireCommentaires` &css=`0` &captcha=`2` ¬ify=`2`!]
BTW, as you can see, I call Jot
uncached on a
cached page and it works....
I have PHx installed
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Or not stupid enough
I admit I am lazy - thus I always look for the least path of resistance - and it’s not the most elegant thing to do, but it works

Glad I could help...
Anyway, I am still very interrested in explanations or fix to get placeholders to work !
Quote from: yoomai at Mar 05, 2008, 10:03 AMDavid, the problem occurs only if u use the &placeholders and &output params.
Yes I know I banged my head with this... my understanding is you have to set &output=`0` when you use &placeholder else you get double output so to speak...
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This is frustrating... I tried all possible combinations discussed here, but I can’t use Jot-placeholders. I placed the Jot-call and the placeholders directly in the template (instead of a dedicated chunk), but I don’t see ANYTHING then...
I really need to use placeholders, since the client wants to list the comments first, and only show the form at the bottom of the page.
I’m getting a second problem using this wprk around:
When a comment is added, it doesn’t appear immediately, but only on a manual refresh.