It works
That was it &extenders=`summary,dateFilter`
I did not understand the extenders well enough, the tutorials work on the theory that most people have a fairly good understanding already, anyway thanks for your help it’s really appreciated what a great feeling when you suddenly resolve a problem.
Thanks again
Ian
[edit] with &id=`wp` in my ditto call I lost the page pagination I changed that to &id=`blog` and then my placeholders had this name added like this
<div id="ditto_pages">
Showing [+blog_start+] - [+blog_stop+] of [+blog_total+] Articles
[+blog_previous+] [+blog_pages+] [+blog_next+]
</div>
Now all perfect