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    • 32942
    • 141 Posts
    hiii!

    Can you tell the us which opensource projects were used to create this project?
    ie:
    "project name" Link


    Did you use PEAR MDB as DB abstraction class?

    Some information by the way :

    Here are some tools I would like to share with you [not open & opensource  mixed]!
    "StaffFTP Client" http://www.staff-ftp.com
    "Abyss http server" http://www.aprelium.com/
    "UltraExplorer & very good libs" http://www.mustangpeak.net/
    "PeerGuardian 2" http://phoenixlabs.org/pg2/
    "MODx CMS" http://modxcms.com

    "UNICODE Information 4 MODx devs"
    The Best Framwork on earth: http://www.symfony-project.com/
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    my idea: Please rebuilt and integrate MODx framework into a symfony framework project.
    Integration of a Framwork in a framwork, "the fastest way" to follow all standards
    The best way to follow all standards is to hack MODx into the Symfony framework...
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    "all JAVA framworks"
    http://icu.sourceforge.net/

    http://fplanque.net/Blog/devblog/2003/08/18/p353
    http://www.dynamicwebpages.de/php/ref.unicode.php
    http://zez.org/article/articleview/42
      • 25663 MODX Staff
      • 12,272 Posts
      There’s no chance that we’ll rebuild MODx into the Symfony framework. That would make it infinitely more complex. What are the benefits of doing this?

      Further, MODx is itself a simple framework, that will become arguably more capable than the other PHP frameworsk that are available. Look for more info after our 0.9.5 release.
        Ryan Thrash, MODX Co-Founder
        Follow me on Twitter at @rthrash or catch my occasional unofficial thoughts at thrash.me
        • 22303 MODX Staff
        • 10,725 Posts
        Yeah, sorry, but MODx is not going to be integrated into Symfony by me. Though Symfony has some lovely features, after evaluating Symfony, I was not impressed with the do it like we did in Java/Struts approach, nor was system performance what I expected, especially when using the Propel O/R mapping portion, which is just bloated with code and doesn’t offer any reasonable PHP 4/5 compatibility. It’s just too heavy on the framework side IMO, and MODx will be taking a slightly different, and I think, unique approach to rapid web application development with PHP; one that better fits the language itself.

        In fact I rewrote the MODx core using Propel last December and the results were okay, but less than impressive. In my view, adopting Symfony/Propel would mean a significant trade-off in performance for a debatable gain in developer flexibility. With that in mind, I ended up writing an ultra-light O/R mapping system that specifically avoids using a query abstraction layer (Propel uses Creole for this), opting instead for encouraging any non-standard SQL logic to be optimized to the database platform being used. It will require work to port projects built on it because of this, but the end-result should be better-performing applications that can take advantage of platform specific features. This xPDO project I’m describing is still in development, but already being used to power a number of client database applications in conjunction with MODx.

        But feel free to port a version of MODx on over to Symfony if you want to. It would be interesting to see how they would fit together.
          • 32942
          • 141 Posts
          very interesting answers!
          Yes I agree symfony "applications" are not as fast as I expected when I built my first project with it..so forget that.
          The reason I asked these questions was, because I would really love to have following features in MODx:
          L10n / Localization (Translation), I18n / Internationalization and Globalization ->short descrition http://philip.pristine.net/glit/en/

          I haven’t tried this out jet, but I like AspectJ and AspectPHP would be great:
          Aspect Oriented PHP http://www.aophp.net/ check this out!
          I read about semantic web somewhere in these forums in coherence with MODx. How deep is it integrated already?
          All semantic I could see in the latest svn trunk was that information was very nicely seperated in the backend, in the hope that the frontend benefits from that.
          It does! But RDF and "weak AI" etc. aren’t integrated yet..however WEB 3.0 comes in 10years..Tim Berners Lee said, but he also said that WWW is never becoming popular..lol