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    I’m currently using Joomla! on all my sites. Can this new CMS modX compete in anyway with Joomla!.
    Or there more options like: extensions, plugins etc available ?
    And the big question is can i transfer my Joomla! sites without problems to this CMS ?!

    Thanks
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      1 Yes
      2 Probably not (at this moment)
      3 Hard to say without knowing the kind of sites you’re talking about. There are no Joomla->MODx conversion tools, but it can be done (depending on your skill and dedication)

      In my opinion MODx is a much better cmf overall but plz post some more info if you want a good reply to your question and do some research yourself.
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        Hello,

        MODx isn’t "better" than Joomla and Joomla isn’t "better" than MODx, it’s more of a personal choice. That being said I prefer MODx to other systems as it’s a more powerful solution if you know what you are doing. MODx has proven to be extremely powerful enabling my clients to update their sites with little to no additional assistance after launch.

        The best suggestion I can give you is to try it and see if it works for you’re needs.
          Patrick | Server Wrangler
          About Me: Website | Tweets |  MODX Hosting
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          Quote from: HotelVliegticket at Nov 04, 2010, 07:03 PM

          I’m currently using Joomla! on all my sites. Can this new CMS modX compete in anyway with Joomla!.

          There are many ways. In most ways it certainly can (power, flexibility, maintainability, architecture, extensibility). In others not yet, mostly availability of ready made add-ons.

          Quote from: HotelVliegticket at Nov 04, 2010, 07:03 PM

          Or there more options like: extensions, plugins etc available ?

          No, not at the moment. But having used Joomla for many years I found the majority of add-ons of very low quality (buggy, half baked, abandoned)

          Quote from: HotelVliegticket at Nov 04, 2010, 07:03 PM

          And the big question is can i transfer my Joomla! sites without problems to this CMS ?!

          Depends on your site. Plain HTML content should not be a problem. All your custom add-ons would probably need a conversion or rewrite to MODx.

          Just give it try. That’s what I did. And I’m not going back to Joomla!
            MODx Revolution / MAMP / OS X
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            MODx may have fewer addons/extensions/plugins but there is a big differense between Joomla addons and MODx addons in that MODx addons are extremly flexible and up to date. Why would anyone need 10 different commenting systems when you can use one that can cover almost anything you could ever want to do?

            If you tell us more about what you have and what you want to do, perhaps we can give you more specific answers.

            I’ve just converted a very old Mambo installation (Mambo "became" Joomla) to MODx Revolution, with 2000 docs and 30.000 users with corresponding, ratings, comments and a lot more. In short I did it like this: Imported the Mambo tables to same database as MODx, ran a script that "integrated" Mambo tables with MODx, ran a script that read the Mambo stuff and saved them (after mapping diffrent tables and fields according to the differenses between Mambo and MODx) as new resources in MODx.

            I now have a script that converts that Mambo installation in one big step to an empty MODx installation, from nothing to a fully working site in MODx. When I actually do the shift I will have a down time of just 10-15 minutes, and all the stuff I import will be completely up to date. So it is definitly possible.

            Don’t know how much is changed between Mambo and Joomla, if not to much perhaps my scrips could be a starting point.

            I can promise you, if you start using MODx you’ll never ever go back to Joomla.

            As with any change between different cms it of course take some effort to learn the new cms.

            Good luck with what ever choice you make. Joomla isn’t bad, it’s just that MODx is so much modern and better! At least in my opinion.
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              you’ll probably get pretty biased answers here, i mean you are on a modx forum after all. i’m sure on a joomla board people will say joomla is the best, and on drupal boards they will say drupal is the best. that being said, MODX IS THE BEST! smiley

              like a previous poster said, none of them are really "better" than the other, if that were the case, why would there be alternatives?

              personally i’ve tried several cms and frameworks, and they always frustrated me enough that i was like "f*** it, i’m just going to write the code from scratch". modx was the first system that showed enough ease of use and flexibility, that i made the effort to learn it. and now that i’ve got the hang of it, i very rarely find myself saying "damn you modx!", and when i do, there’s usually a fix for it, or else i can develop my own snippet or plugin or whatever is needed to make it work for my specific need very easily.
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                I’ve done my fair share of research into CMS, and eventually came to MODx by recommendation from a friend. It turns out that if you google Joomla and Drupal etc, you find lots of communities all comparing Joomla to Drupal. But none of them crossed over to MODx - it was like those people had never heard of it. It didn’t show on their radar at all.

                Then my friend mentioned MODx, and upon googling it I suddenly unlocked a NEW community that was discussing all three. But the distinct difference between the communities was that those discussing only Joomla and Drupal were all bloggers and people looking for a quick fix to their CMS requirements. Much of the discussion was based on the use of addons and the ways and means to control the layout of the site from within the admin UI. But the community involving MODx, while invariably praising MODx, seemed to be full of real developers discussing coding/scripting techniques for achieving custom behaviour from a much lower level. Yes there was talk of addons and plugins, but almost nothing about layout control within the admin UI.

                At first that concerned me, until I started building my own test site. Then I realised one important truth about CMS driven sites: Realistically, once you build a sizable site using either CMS and perhaps hand it over to those who will actually OPERATE the site, it quickly becomes obvious that the end users require no control over the layout of the site from within the admin UI. That sort of functionality seems entirely redundant except in extreme circumstances when someone might randomly decide to shift a block from the left column to the right, or something equally unimportant in the grand scheme. That kind of thing is decided at design time, and can be altered by the original developer if necessary. The chances an end user will want to do that kind of thing SHOULD be fairly small. I’m not saying it’s a useless feature, just one around which a CMS shouldn’t be entirely centred.

                So it occurred to me that the MODx admin UI is all about content management! Not layout management. And as such, rather than effectively limiting the creative flexibility of the site within the admin UI, it seems to have been completely removed allowing the developer to just get on and do it in code – as would need to be the case if you aren’t just using a template anyway. So ultimately you end up with a system for the discerning developer rather than the hapless end user. By that I mean that the developer can build the system and make it do absolutely anything, with few restrictions, and then pass it to the end user who can manage the content of the site without the unnecessary clutter of lamentably inhibitive layout controls.

                And so I concluded that the reason the MODx community is comparatively small, perhaps, is because it takes a more advanced, explorative developer to really grasp the benefits and put them into practise. The masses, the majority, who look for a quick and easy CMS end up considering the likes of Joomla and Drupal not because they’re better, but because they seem realistic and rather jolly. And for what they are I’m sure they’re great. They’re long established and presumably well developed, and do what they set out to do. But as several others above have intimated, once you crack MODx you’ll probably never consider going back! It’s that or you’ll give up early on because you might not be as advanced a developer as required to use MODx in the first place.

                I suppose it’s analogous to the tiny minority of us who buy/build more expensive PCs, putting as much money as can be afforded into CPU and RAM because ultimately that’s what is going to define the long term quality of the user experience. But the masses will buy their rig off the shelf from PC World, Currys or perhaps Dell because it’s cheaper, easier, and most of the time will do the job fairly well, but inevitably end up cursing their machine down the line because it ‘slows down’ and is generally underpowered when combined with the evolving nature of software like the OS and AV. I don’t mean to sound like I’m saying Joomla will slow down and cause problems. More that it won’t necessarily bend quite so nicely to your will (unless you ARE advanced and you put in likely more effort than it would take to achieve the same in MODx) and that eventually you’ll discover limitations that you simply can’t overcome without some hardcoded modification to the system.

                So basically I think MODx is really for the more advanced, discerning minority who know enough to develop properly, rather than the ‘less skilled’, ‘cookie cutter’ generation. That isn’t meant to insult, so I hope nobody takes offense, but in most walks of life there is a more advanced, perhaps more expensive option that anyone would use if they could – MODx is it. It can never be the biggest and most popular CMS because this movie is an 18 and the box office takings are ruled by successful family flicks!

                Cheers for watching.
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                  FormIt (form) and Quip (comment) propose to use recaptcha, so i guess it’s a yes.
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                    Thanks for all the information !
                    First i will try ModX CMS on my site http://www.hotelvliegticket.nl
                    Can you also provide me with the best extensions for Mod CMS ?

                    Thanks
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                      What are you trying to do with your website, and which version of MODx do you plan to use? MODx Evolution (evo) has most of the common scripts you need included with the default install. Revolution (revo) has none by default, but most of the common ones are well documented and again depend on what you want to accomplish.

                        Patrick | Server Wrangler
                        About Me: Website | Tweets |  MODX Hosting