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    Quote from: zi at Jan 10, 2006, 01:03 PM

    I have no problem at all with your username, its great, easy and memorable wink

    We were only kidding, please dont mind it smiley

    wishing you all the best.

    zi

    lol, I don’t mind either. wink
    Hey you know what, sometimes having a girl’s name is awesome, you’re being treated differently when you are on the phone. Do you agree with me Susan? laugh

    One more question before I left this topic go dried to the bottom of this forum.
    If I have a suggestion/comments/ideas about MODx system, either technical or marketing wise, do I need to post it on the core team forum or I can just post a topic as a regular user? I did post a feature suggestion that needs to be discuss more in public forum, so I thought it’s a good idea to know the rules in this forum, before making a mistake.

    Thanks guys...
      Wendy Novianto
      [font=Verdana]PT DJAMOER Technology Media
      [font=Verdana]Xituz Media
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      Quote from: wendy at Jan 10, 2006, 12:46 PM

      Now you’ve seen one smiley

      Yes I have ;P
      You learn every day that goes by. Remember I am french, even if I manage to write some decent english I lack some cultural references, first names are among those...

      Anyway, I was not meaning to be rude or upset you, sorry

      Ehmm... Time to change my username I guess, how about djamoer? Sounds hard isn’t it?
      I think it might sounds better, let me see... I don’t think I can change my username. Oh well, anyway.

      Please, don’t !
      Or rather, only if you feel others making the same mistake will bother you in the long run.

      So guys, if you guys have something about MODx that you think I can be part of, please feel free to drop me an email or private message. I might be off for some time, maybe this coming summer, because I’m moving back to my lovely country Indonesia. I’m planing to open up a real consultant company in there, and if I really do concentrate on web design, instead of ERP/CRM provider, then I will take MODx and start hiring an in house programmer to improve the core code, and giving it back to the community. So for now, don’t left me behind knowing nothing smiley

      Well for starters, we’ll have the marketing IM conference set up soon, and since you have ideas you’ll be part of that. One thing that has struck me in this community is talent and dedication rarely gets un-noticed. As I said, I had noticed your post from the beginning and I see I am not the only one.

      Btw, don’t expect too much of it, because the web design market in Indonesia is not that good, considering a lot of competitor out there.

      Funny you’d say that, because in France there are many competitors out there. I guess most countries suffer the same cluttered markets. But let me tell you one thing : there is room for more modern competitors out there.

      For instance web standards are poorly understood by french web agencies, and CMS are vastly underused (most of my competitors charge by the pages, ah ah, or charge absolutely outrageous prices for average quality output, or low price but ugly standard looking websites...). Not to mention the few who use CMS use old-fashioned ones such as SPIP or Typo3. Those are heavy, cluttered or/and standard non-compliant systems but represent 95% of the market.

      I don’t know about Indonesia, but in France that’s the way it is. If you present clients with alternatives, you start having an audience (it takes some convincing, let’s not be naive).

      They charge a really2 low price, which most company don’t really care whether the result will looks good or not for their own company’s website. If I suceed in educating the market about the important of web design, then the plan will continue, if not, I’ll look for another way.

      Just what I was saying. You are either faced with competitors that charge a lot and have locked big accounts, or low-price competitors that produce look-alike websites that are not even HTML 4 compliant... (most don’t have a doctype to begin with...). As you say, we educate the market. With applications such as MODx, we might just get through to them smiley

      I am not saying it’s easy, but it’s starting to pay off as far as I am concerned.

      Anyway, I am struck by the HUGE gap between a country like the US and a country like mine, web-wise.

      I have been somewhat of a voice in the french community of webdesigners and webmasters, annoying to some (even got threatenned) and respected by others.

      Anyway, I hope you hang in there !
      There are things to be done for our respective countries, web-wise...
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        Hey David,

        Ehmm... I feel awkward now, I’m not angry at all, so don’t worry about that, if you guys know the meaning of DJAMOER, it means mushroom in english, and it starts as a joke to call me that, but I’m starting to like it, and even built a company with that name. lol... It’s hard some times to express joke in a sentence. It’s better to joke in person wink Hey you know what? I have a vision that we all will meet in an open source conference one day to promote Tatoo... It’s a big dream, but hey, we need to aim high, and start working whatever that we can to achieve that, don’t you guys agree with me? (I’m starting to go off-topic again tongue)

        Anyway, talking about the market, they just don’t understand the use of website. That’s why educating market that don’t know and don’t want to know about the usability of website is a lot harder. We don’t have a really good internet connection in Indonesia, and that’s one of the reason why I want to go back to my country. I want to educate people the use of Internet to corporate level. Right now, the usage of internet in Indonesia is only for chatting, forum-ing tongue, bloging, searching, and all personal interest only. Only big corporation use Internet, while the small-mid company will use the same old way to grow their business. I think I might talk about this more with you David, as I’m planning to where I need to be going when I’m going home.

        If we have a set of marketing for MODx/Tatoo, then it will be easier for us to adapt it into the situation on specific country, don’t you think?

        Think of it as having a foundation, and our company such as Ryan’s, yours, and etc are a certified partner for MODx/Tatoo. Actually I’m expecting more into Tatoo though, so before even we release the beta, we already had all marketing plan setup, and ready to promote the product to corporate level. We might need to learn from Joomla and other OpenSource system such as Linux, MySql, SugarCRM, and etc. The only thing that really important right now is to grow the community I believe, so let us work harder to promote MODx wink

        Sincerely,
          Wendy Novianto
          [font=Verdana]PT DJAMOER Technology Media
          [font=Verdana]Xituz Media