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    Hmmm,

    What if we should change the name from snippets MODScripts?

    Just an idea!
      xWisdom
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      I’d personally rather see us adopt industry standard names for these things if we plan on changing the names. For instance, in the J2EE world, CMS/portal systems standardized on the word ’portlet’ to identify any type of script aimed at delivering dynamic content. There are now interoperability standards and such that have evolved out of this standardization. Leading or finding others already leading such efforts in the PHP world (or even generically, outside of any specific technology implementation) might be very beneficial to us.

      Also, since we’ll be branded as Tattoo eventually, I think MODscripts might add unnecessary confusion to our marketing efforts.

      All that said, I really think we should continue as is for now, until we get a little more external feedback on the names of our components.
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        I can’t stand "portlet". Reminds me too much of "Portolet" aka construction site bathrooms. LOL

        A name change would be good though.
          Ryan Thrash, MODX Co-Founder
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          I agree; can’t stand portlet myself (got tired of explaining it to clients, too!). Was just suggesting this can be a very important part of the marketing effort, and we shouldn’t adopt names without investing some time in exploring options...
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            Hmmm,

            I agree,

            Well for the fun of it here’s a few other names:

            ActionScripts
            TagScripts
            Scriptlets
            CodeTags
            ActionCodes
            ActionTags
            ActiveScripts
            ActiveTags
            PowerScripts
            PowerTags




              xWisdom
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              Or Maybe TemplateScripts (TS) or CustomScripts (CS)

              lol
                xWisdom
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                The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom:
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                From another thread, how about changing the name of "Snippets" to "Code Blocks" or something along those lines -- something to denote it can contain programming logic and is evaluated in the parser. Which is pretty much exactly what it is, and should also be pretty intuitive to both techies and non-techies alike.

                Similarly, we could call a chunk an "Static Block". "Placeholders" are pretty well named already. smiley

                "Plugins" alter or extend the way the core system behaves. Intutive on its own.

                "Packages" are groups of co-dependent plugins/modules/snippets/chunks/pages and even DB queries that install into the system to create a custom behavior or application. We need an installer for these that is internal to the Manager. This should be a priority for TP4, in fact, I think. Should also be able to uninstall as well.

                Speaking of "Manager", should it be called that or the "Control Panel" or "Control Center"?

                In the short term, it’ll be painful even for me. But as we go farther along, we really need to be as clear, straightforward and "non-clever" as possible when talking about the core technology and operating parameters. Read Jeff Veen’s article, also mentioned in teh opensourcecms.com interview, for more insight into my thought process. http://www.veen.com/jeff/archives/000622.html

                I couldn’t agree more with what he says. smiley

                In a similar vein, we need to seriously rev our "blank state" install. There’s no reason why we couldn’t preconfigure the site as a simple blog, with a simple marketing/contact page and so on. We could even have the default text be an explanation of the basics of how to use the system.
                  Ryan Thrash, MODX Co-Founder
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                  To me, we’re getting closer with Custom Scripts, Code Tags or even Active Tags. I’m still partial to something with "Code" in it as it’s much more direct at first blush and requires the least amount of thought.

                  Let’s go for idiot-resistant!
                    Ryan Thrash, MODX Co-Founder
                    Follow me on Twitter at @rthrash or catch my occasional unofficial thoughts at thrash.me
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                    Sure should be ok to move to marketing

                    I’m more for TemplateScripts or CustomScripts. I don’t think I’m for "Code blocks"

                    As for Chunks I would prefer the name "TextBlock" or HTMLBlock

                    That’s just my 0.02-cents

                      xWisdom
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                      I’ve been waiting for this discussion to start up for a while grin

                      I think it would be good to have a common name across modules, snippets, chuncks and plugins like Bit, Piece or Chunk maybe.

                      i.e.
                      Snippet: CodeBit, PHPBit
                      Chunk: HTMLBit, TemplateBit, ThemeBit
                      Plugin: EventBit
                      Module: PackageBit, ExtensionBit

                      Needs a little refining I know bit I think it would be good to have one simple, common name that defines a resource of any sort and then just add a descriptive name to that. I think it would help people to differentiate the difference betten the different type of resources.