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    I’m still using DW MX2004. I find it plenty fast (over a broadband connection). It’s a lot faster for me than editing the css file in the manager. I don’t imagine that it will run in Windows Vista, though, so I’ll probably have to change my ways soon.

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      Quote from: BobRay at Dec 11, 2007, 05:34 PM

      It’s a lot faster for me than editing the css file in the manager.
      Yeah. I wouldn’t do that either. If I am editing live I either use HTML-Kit which has built in FTP (though none of the syncing capablities of DWMX) or Filezilla and e-Texteditor.

      I have a broadband connection and I tried updating some elements of a client’s old site using DW it was awful. The reason I put up with it was that it was full of nested presentational tables and it is far easier to edit in design view than the head splitting task of dealing with bad HTML in a text editor. Thanks for your comment though.

      Cheers,

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        I also use PhpEd, which is a fantastic code editor and has very fast FTP, but it doesn’t have DW’s capabilities for .css editing.

        I’ve never been able to stand using DW in design view but then I’ve never had to edit someone else’s HTML code.

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          BobRay,
          DW 2004 works well in Vista. I use the code view and Filezilla to ftp. NVU sucks. I can’t shift between multiple files in code view...
          the other tool I like is FirstPage 2000 / 2006
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            Quote from: BobRay at Dec 11, 2007, 11:08 PM

            I’ve never been able to stand using DW in design view...
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            Don’t you find that DW uses an sh!tload of resources just to be a text-editor with code highlighting? The reason I stopped using DW was the resource issue. If I had Fireworks, Photoshop, DW and FireFox open at the same time my machine would come to a near grind. 60% of the DW resources are there to make the design view portion of the app run.

            I decided since I was using code view and there were better apps to handle text (since I hand code all my CSS anyway) that why bother anymore.

            I used HTML-Kit (http://chami.com/) for a few years (still use it on occassion) and then last year I started using e-Texteditor after seeing a screencast of Textmate for the Mac and learning that it had been ported to PC. e generally uses less than 40, 000K vs DW which usually uses between 150, 000 and 300,000K. HTML-Kit also is lean on the resources using generally less than 40, 000K even with huge numbers of files open and multiple connections to live remote files.

            That being said neither app is a programming IDE and for that I have used Eclipse and a number of others like PHPEdit and the like but those are resource heavy but purposefully so and I am not using design applications at the same time anyway.

            Cheers and all the best,

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              This is a bit dated now, I suppose, but I was fond of it when I had a Windows machine.

              http://www.crimsoneditor.com/

              One advantage it has is a bulk search-and-replace. You can open a bunch of files and replace whatever in all of them. The one time I changed the MODx manager folder’s name, I used this, and had no trouble at all.
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                Quote from: smashingred at Dec 13, 2007, 09:09 AM

                Don’t you find that DW uses an sh!tload of resources just to be a text-editor with code highlighting?
                Jay

                No Kidding. It doesn’t slow down my machine that much, but I often get Windows Virtual Memory alerts when it’s running with anything else. I just like that it will pop up the possible .css attributes and their possible values (and provides a really handy color picker). I don’t use it all that often.

                I can’t say enough good things about NuSphere’s PhpEd, which has pretty much every option I want:

                • Code folding
                • Customizable code highlighting
                • Great customizable autocomplete code templates
                • Smooth integration with TortoiseSVN
                • Easy to use integrated php debugger
                • Multi-file configurable search and replace
                • Flyout alphabetical list of all functions and variables in a project
                • Flyout Database browser/editor
                • Quick keyboard command for block or line commenting/uncommenting of highlighted code
                • All the old WordStar keyboard commands (including quick set/jump to 10 bookmarks)
                • Option to write custom php code to process highlighted blocks
                • Fast, smart FTP synchronization


                I imagine that most of these are available through Eclipse, but I never cared for the Eclipse user interface.

                @Sottwell: I too have fond memories of Crimson Editor smiley but sadly it’s missing many of these capabilities.

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