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    Quote from: ChuckTrukk at Jan 23, 2009, 06:34 AM

    that’s a good idea cw. that’s what drupal/acquia are doing with their code-sprints on a larger scale using chip-in.
    http://drupal.org/node/356002
    Good catch Chuck, that is exactly what I had in mind. Seems there is a lot to learn over at Drupal rolleyes
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      We’re fortunate to have Jason and Shaun doing the majority of coding almost full time on MODx and related infrastructure projects; I’m super-lucky to get to work with them every single day! (Though I’m not sure the reverse holds true tongue )

      Perhaps a fundraising campaign would indeed be a great thing to do as soon as we get the first beta out the door. We barely have time to breath right now, and adding more complexity/responsibility to the project might just lump more complexity and project management chores on top of the other commitments. Funding with no strings attached though would be amazing. Thoughts?
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        The ChipIn service Drupal is using looks great! http://www.chipin.com/
          Ryan Thrash, MODX Co-Founder
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          Quote from: rthrash at Jan 23, 2009, 06:54 AM

          The ChipIn service Drupal is using looks great! http://www.chipin.com/
          Yes, that is the ’bees knees’. It has me getting all sorts of ideas wink
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            I think advertised fundrising campaing for modx Revolution is a great idea. It would surely encourage people to donate.

            After Revolution is stable enough for production work some kind of bounty / open funding system would be very useful indeed. Especially when the variety of snippets etc. will inevitably be smaller for Revolution at first.
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              This description of OpenFunding scenarios makes a tonne of sense: http://ez.no/developer/articles/open_funding_the_defeat_of_dysfunctional_development/how_open_funding_works

              The how-to do it is tricky. For adding core elements to MODx, it is simple and can be handled by the core development team but to involve other devs or contributers to a project would require significant value assessment. IMHO time put in doesn’t work for remuneration because it rewards people who are slower, then how do you assess the value of the individual contributions for non core developers? Stipends or honorariums, % shares or bids may work but the complexity of compensation doesn’t lend itself to a community because it encourages competition for work, money and share.

              Regarding the development of addons, my personal opinion is that a combination of OpenFunding, Commercial Funding (via MODx’s founders’ company Collabpad), and ad hoc community development teams are the best scenario for MODx.

              I’ve only seen one example of a feature development team in MODx (which is common in many other OS project communites) and that is the KiweeCommerce team that took over the development of a privately developed project.

              There are some talented developers and designers in the MODx communities and I see many people adding to projects in threads and such but why not semi-formally form development teams to build solutions for MODx addons. Some of these may get picked up as projects by the Core Team but in any case it would advance the feature set in MODx without the complex infrastructure of a financial model.

              Chip-in looks like a terrific idea but as Ryan points out, our feet are hardly hitting the ground we’re running so fast.
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                I really love the community here in modx. From managermanager to wayfinder, eform, docmanager. Dev’s and designers are creating stuff for their clients, sharing, and improving it. It’s very similar to the drupal community in that respect compared to the paid addons of joomla/expression engine.

                I think the mutual sharing really helps our community. Drupal has a good handle on chip-in, GPL bounties and such- which aligns with the current modx community IMHO. I think chip-ins, project donations and GPL/MIT bounties are the way to go. I could see the bounties being more community-led (like drupal’s) rather than core-dev led.
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                  I’d hate to see this idea dropped - I have many things cooking at the moment (business is booting up after a drought last trimester in 2008) - but I’ll try to bring all the ideas together, dig a bit more into this and draft something + ask for contributors and then get started !

                  Funding could prove invaluable and a good code sprint for Revolution is something I’d like to see come to life !
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                    Hi, has any progress been made with this concept. Over the last month I’ve seen more and more sites using modx and the new modx website look great. As modx Revolution and updated Evolution looks near (I hope wink ) the Open Funding approach would further help broaden the number of extensions and plugin available.

                    It would be a shame to see the Open Funding option fade as other projects take central focus.
                      Martin Sanders - Design & Web Development
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                      To reopen my original post, has any progress been made on this concept?

                      There seems to be a growing number of new commercial enquires through the forum and other sites indicating available funds to invest in new developments.

                      I personally have several new snippets in the planning and would be very happy to propose and sponsor these projects with community open funding.

                      By pulling our efforts into an Open Fund with projects proposed by the community we could extend MODx in many new directions while ensuring a professional standard.

                      I would personally like to see MODx develop more e-commerce related tools, why should e-commerce systems be as complex as Magento or X-cart?
                        Martin Sanders - Design & Web Development