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    Using windows 7 since it’s release, but I like Ubuntu a lot. I used to use the Adobe Photoshop and others programs for making the design. Since the end of 2010, I don’t use the Adobe’s suit for Design no more, as I got a new employee for working on the design of the websites so I only code.

    What do you guys think, should I use Ubuntu 10.10?
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      I made my own opnion about this now.

      I just couldn’t get used to the blurry fonts Ubuntu has, (Mac OS X is far away less blurry) I don’t know if it’s my notebooks Intel x3100 graphics card that sucks or if there’s a problem with linux windows system, but it’s just get my eyes really tired. :-(

      Ubuntu it’s a great system, I really like it, integration with ssh from my server and everything helped me a lot.... But I don’t think that is good for working everyday with it. It gets me really more tired.

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        You need a routine in UBUNTU and than you’ll starting to like it more then Windows 7 i’am sure about it.
        You should use Ubuntu in my opinion because it’s faster than Windows and is free.
        You needn’t buy anything you can simple download the stuff and use it.
        That’s why i like Ubuntu a lot, and i recommended it to all only to try it and to make a decision Windows or Ubuntu. wink
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          It’s a tough decision. Windows7 certainly beats the crap out of Vista. wink

          If you are a serious user of any Office or other Windows apps (Word, Excel, Quicken, etc.) I would say Windows7. The *nix alternatives just don’t cut it, IMO.

          You also need to consider what the people you inter-operate with are using and if you will have EOL and encoding issues with them.

          Your own knowledge about how each OS works, how much you hate Microsoft, and the power of your machine (Windows sucks a lot of resources) are also factors to consider.

          If you’re writing your own stuff for yourself, have good *nix skills, and don’t need any MS-based apps, Ubuntu might be a good choice for you.
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            Thanks guys!

            It is surely a nice point. I’m still sticking with windows becouse my office partner is a designer that uses windows, so to exchange files, and use the Adobe Creative Suite it’s really necessary to use the Windows enviroment.

            I really like Linux, I already setup 2 servers with CentOS, already used a lot for programing stuff, but I just couldn’t put it on my routine, but I’m surely tring to put this on my ’roadmap’.
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              I think this thread should be put to good use tongue

              I’m not a Ubuntu user, I just installed it with Wubi and dual boot it. I only did this during last week so I’m still pretty excited about this OS and I’ve been playing around with it. I haven’t really done the work that I usually do with my computer yet, so for now I’m just telling about my first impressions.

              I have never had an office product on my computer, because I haven’t seen a reason to buy the package. I guess most people get it pre installed, or learn to use it in their work or something. I’ve always used Wordpad for my text editing, which already tells you I almost never edit text. So in that aspect I don’t loose anything using Ubuntu. For many the absence of Office products is a huge problem.

              Now, I as well am a really "old" (4 years or something) Photoshop user. However, before I started using Photoshop I used GIMP for a good while and I maybe could be able to transfer back to GIMP if it was really necessary. My brain is just so well programmed into Photoshop. I used GIMP because I didn’t know Photoshop existed, but once I tried PS I just didn’t want to go back. The window jungle GIMP creates is just really agitating for me. Though I could run Photoshop in Ubuntu, if I really wanted to...

              There are some nice things about GIMP as well and it does some things better, but my button shortcuts don’t all work and I don’t know where all the tools are so I’d rather not learn a new program when I know that I won’t be as satisfied with it as I would be with another one.

              The other things I do are coding and browsing the internet. Ubuntu is actually really bad for internet browsing. What? Maybe it’s just me getting used to something, but the fonts are really bad. For example Youtube comments look weird. The font size looks so small and it feels like there is more letter spacing. This is in Chromium (don’t know why I didn’t download Chrome). I tried my heart out, but I couldn’t replace the default font unfortunately. This is a minor problem and I’m sure I’d get used to the new font.

              What I really like about Ubuntu is that it’s so easy. Everything is so simple to do and everything is presented very well in the default menus. What I like the most is installing programs. In Windows 7 I’m always left with zipped and extracted files and I have to click through the wizard. Ubuntu has many ways to install stuff and every single one of them is nice. If I sometimes feel bad when a guy somewhere coded a website and a CMS to support it in a day, making it better than what I have ever done, I can just open terminal and install a program -- makes you feel more technical right away laugh

              The other thing is the immense amount of free software, or rather the lack of software that costs something. It’s just simply awesome. Makes you feel free.

              I think it’s not uncommon for "designers" like me to have a Linux installation somewhere. You can’t really modify Windows (or mac os x) to great extent without running a program on the background or hacking something. Ubuntu insists that you modify it, it wants you to make it the way it fits you the best. I haven’t dived into the theming yet, I have the picture that it’s fucking hard work, but I’m really exited to know that I can make this installation look more like me than any other OS.

              Now, I think there are some problems. Like that panels don’t support transparency, which comes to the way of you when you are theming. The look of the GUI has come forward a lot during the versions 10.04 and 10.10, but it still is pretty simple. Maybe that is for the best, but you sometimes feel as you were browsing a website which is a feeling I’m not used to. I think "Panels" needs something new. Windows abandoned the traditional taskbar because it wasn’t the best option. I think Panels should ship with a more "docky" and versatile taskbar. Of course there is a lot of "dock software" and I myself use Docky. It’s the small things. For example the "help" box that appears when you hover over something is very big and ugly in my opinion. Overall there is a feeling that the GUI is not quite as polished as with other OS’s, but that can be just me.

              I also think that having so many options to configure can be really hard on you. You might be overwhelmed by the choices you have and just back up your gear and go back to the land of "unfree" and "restricted" where you don’t have to make all of these hard decisions tongue

              I like Ubuntu and it’s definitely better than I thought, but I think that a week from now I’m back to Windows 7. I might keep the installation and maybe use it to update my website to better avoid viruses.

              Some guy had a problem with how the fonts looked inside the OS. If you right click on the desktop and go to "change desktop background" you get a windows which has "fonts" tab in it. Press that and you get options for rendering. The rendering changes real time so you can see what fits you the best. By default it’s "Sub pixel smoothing" which is really blurry especially for a Windows user. If you come from Mac I can’t say how it compares. You can also changes the fonts from the same menu. There are packages floating around with Mac OS X fonts as well as Windows fonts (which can also be found from the synaptic packet management msconfig or something like that).

              Here’s a picture of my Ubuntu installation. It’s just some theme grabbed from gnome-look.org, but it looks completely different than with the default theme. Though to achieve this I have to run some extra programs *sigh* grin


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                My dream is Adobe releasing the entire Creative Suite for Linux.
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                  Quote from: Daniel at Jan 25, 2011, 01:59 PM

                  My dream is Adobe releasing the entire Creative Suite for Linux.

                  That was my dream as well until I invested in a Mac Book Pro smiley. Now I don’t really care about these things I just do websites and don’t waste time installing/trying other OSs
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                    I run Ubuntu 10.10 and have used Ubuntu/Fedora/OpenSuse for a few years now. I know basic command line stuff but not a lot more, enough to get by, and I just love Ubuntu. With OpenOffice, GIMP, Geany, Chrome, Firefox, Thunderbird, Filezilla and dozens of other top-quality free-to-use applications it’s just an awesome setup, and it’s damn fast. Best thing about linux, when you need a new app for something there are always several to choose from, they are a snap to install, and free, no shareware licenses or pirating software nonsense.

                    When I switch back to Vista for testing websites in Internet Explorer I almost always tear my hair out in frustration - Windows just seems so damn illogical compared to Ubuntu. Recently I’ve installed VirtualBox with XP and use that for testing sites in IE - seems to works very nicely so far, have not had to boot to windows for a couple of weeks now.

                    Talking of dreams - mine is that IE ceases to exist and so I NEVER have to boot another Windows OS as long as I live!

                    I would strongly urge anyone thinking of using Ubuntu to give it a real workout, it’s getting sharper with every release and being free of pirated and licensed software is fantastic.
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                      Quote from: Daniel at Jan 25, 2011, 01:59 PM

                      My dream is Adobe releasing the entire Creative Suite for Linux.

                      That was my dream as well until Windows 7 got out smiley. Now I don’t really care about these things I just do websites and don’t waste time installing/trying other OSs