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    I’m learning modx, and I really like it.

    But I’m still not really sure who the intended audience is.

    The thing that makes me think about this is the presence of the template variable editor in quickedit.
    This seems to tell me that, say, a blogger is expected to know all about template variables.

    Personally, I think that a user shouldn’t have to worry about tv’s. And if they want to know about them, then that part of site managment should be available, but not so readily.

    So, I guess my questions are:

    Who is modx built for? Who is the intended audience?

    If I want to impliment modx for a client to simply update their content, can I remove the tv editor ?
    For that matter, can I remove other parts of the management interface?

    Thanks

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      I think MODx is an outstanding application for web designers and web developers who know what they want and are not willing compromise. With MODx you have to have a decent knowledge about HTML and CSS so it’s not very suitable for point-and-click users (usually beginners or hobbyists). And as being a content management framework MODx offers for developers with PHP knowledge endless possibilities to make any kind of custom web solutions. This is probably why a large number of MODx users are professional web emplyees, web business owners and freelancers.

      You can hide/rename/move any section, field or tab in MODx manager with ManagerManager plugin that comes with default installation. Access for individual template variables are best controlled by user roles.

      Template variables are often crucial for simplifying the content management for end users. For example with TVs you can make a textbox TV and a image TV. That way the end user can type the text and select the image to display but don’t have to worry at all about howto position the image. You can even resize the image TV with PHPThumb or other plugin to right size and shape regardless of the original image size. This is why I love TVs - they make things super simple for end users as you can combine the actual web page from easy to handle "content pieces".
        Mikko Lammi, Owner at Maagit
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        If you’re seeing Quickedit then you’re using an outdated version of MODx. I would suggest using the latest 1.0.3 release.
          Ryan Thrash, MODX Co-Founder
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          Who is modx built for? Who is the intended audience?

          If I want to impliment modx for a client to simply update their content, can I remove the tv editor ?
          For that matter, can I remove other parts of the management interface?

          MODx is for everyone. Developers love it because it has a great development platform and API. Designers love it because they can have full control over the look without having to learn any code beyond placing MODx tags to replace content and other manageable information. Users/clients love it because it is easy to understand and can, in most cases, do what they want it to in a way they can understand.

          Yes, you can personalize the interface by using ManagerManager plugin (part of the default installation as of 1.0.0). This allows you to hide fields, add custom tabs and all sorts of other cool things.

          Not sure what you mean by TV editor. But you can remove all fileds with ManagerManager and yu can also assign TVs to specific Manager User groups so that they only show up for specific users.
            [font=Verdana]Shane Sponagle | [wiki] Snippet Call Anatomy | MODx Developer Blog | [nettuts] Working With a Content Management Framework: MODx

            Something is happening here, but you don't know what it is.
            Do you, Mr. Jones? - [bob dylan]
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            Thanks guys. I’ve updated my version of modx.

            I’ve been reading the docs for ManagerManager, and figuring out how to use it.

            I’ve still got two questions:
            For blogging, it looks like ditto is the way to go. However, in the example content included optionally with the installation of modx 1.0.3, the settings for the ditto snippet leave markup in the resuorce content input that could be confusing to a user.
            Also, having that stuff in there and exposing it to a non-technical user is simply asking for trouble.

            Is there a way to deploy ditto without exposing the user to the ditto setting ?

            Also, the template variable input is visible by default. I’d like to hide it away.
            Obviously, ManagerManager is the way to go. But I’m actually not sure what that part of the interface is called, so I don’t know how to reference it to mm.

            In case my terminology is out of whack, and I’m simply using the wrong words to describe the parts of the interface, here is an image, illustrating what I’d like to achieve:
            http://i.imgur.com/RtSBp.png

            thanks.
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              Is there a way to deploy ditto without exposing the user to the ditto setting ?
              I usually add a TV where ai will add code and keep it out of the ’content’ field. Then I create a tab using ManagerManager and move the code TVs to the tab. Then you can hide the tab for different roles if necessary.
                [font=Verdana]Shane Sponagle | [wiki] Snippet Call Anatomy | MODx Developer Blog | [nettuts] Working With a Content Management Framework: MODx

                Something is happening here, but you don't know what it is.
                Do you, Mr. Jones? - [bob dylan]
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                Quote from: dev_cw at May 03, 2010, 11:39 PM

                Is there a way to deploy ditto without exposing the user to the ditto setting ?
                I usually add a TV where ai will add code and keep it out of the ’content’ field. Then I create a tab using ManagerManager and move the code TVs to the tab. Then you can hide the tab for different roles if necessary.

                Thanks Shane.
                Thats really helpful. Helps me thinks about how to do future installations, even though I’m still orientating myself.
                (Modx is really cool. But there’s a lot to learn)

                Btw, I did another test installation today, parrallel to my current test install. This time I left out the sample site data.
                I noticed that that text input for template variable is not present in the default installation. So it looks like I generally don’t have to worry about it’s unneccessary presence.

                I’m still not quiet sure what it is for though. Can someone give me a hint ?

                Thanks.