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    @bruno17 - now your 17 makes total sense - thanks

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      Re-reading my reply to you whistlemaker it seemed very defensive, sorry about that.

      And to answer your question hostile 17 is something from Buffy the Vampire Slayer. A character, Spike, was named that when he was caught by a US governmental unit.

      Bruno17, very kind of you, thank you.
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        my ’trivia question’ has been answered - thanks

        and thanks for replying - it reaffirms my feeling that it was just a misreading - funny how you would think with words right there in front of you that it would be easy to read and understand, and yet I know for myself that if I reread a comment I often find that I can have completely different take on it the second or third time.

        Bill