MODx as part of my workflow...

Hey,

I posted a question about using SiteGrinder 3 with MODx, but I think it may have been unclear as to what I was really asking...

My current workflow is PSD/PNG > SG3 > HTML/CSS/PHP.

SG3 is great for what it does best - perfectly building my design - but a little restrictive when it come to managing content, blogs blah blah blah.

Could I include MODx in my workflow like so? - PSD/PNG > SG3 > HTML/CSS/PHP > MODx.

Would MODx manage a gallery built in SG3 for example?

I’m reading through various tutorials and stuff, but just need some plain old answers!

Thank you,

JB

I’ve never used SiteGrinder before, but from what I’m seeing it builds its own gallery (and other) scripts.

I’m guessing you’d have to manually change that to matching snippet calls in MODx which have been styled accordingly.

I’d prefer MODx > HTML/CSS/PHP > PSD/PNG

(oops... no SG3)
never used SG3, but i don’t trust automation.

Quote from: goldsky at Jun 24, 2010, 06:12 AM

I’d prefer MODx > HTML/CSS/PHP > PSD/PNG

(oops... no SG3)
never used SG3, but i don’t trust automation.

OK. Im a complete newbie with coding in general. I’m using SG3 to generate the html/css for my designs as i only have minimal knowledge of html/css.

Here is an example of a site I built in SG3 http://www.anotherdeadhero.net

Design wise it is spot on to how I wanted it to be BUT...

...Blog functionality is not great. CMS is not great. Can I for example output the html/css for the page design from SG3 and use that html/css as it is to populate with content in MODx?

@Jack,
If you are serious on growing yourself to be a web developer, start learn scripting.
Otherwise, just do what you like to do as a hobby, pay someone else for the scripting thing.

Website is about managing and manipulating the background and foreground.
Website is not a canvas.
It is not the image you’re looking at.
It is a bunch of scripts that manipulating the pixels, which also manage the successful interpretation between the server’s and client’s issues (browser, security, and so on... )

MODx is a website’s content management.
Yes, you can put your CSS into its template, easily.
But again, you should understand the script you’re using, or you might break the content.

@Goldsky,

Firstly, thank you for taking the time to reply and for the advice.


"If you are serious on growing yourself to be a web developer, start learn scripting.
Otherwise, just do what you like to do as a hobby, pay someone else for the scripting thing."

I know I need to learn scripting, that’s what I’m doing and that’s why I’m posting here.
I’m not looking to be a web developer - there are already people doing a far better job of that than I could possibly hope to do. Visual/Graphic Design is not a hobby of mine - it is a profession, one that I would very much like to translate to the internet but have been unable to do so through paying someone else. I want to create sites that deliver my visual ideas in a productive and funtional way. I am learning various new things in order to ba able to achieve this successfully on my own.


"Website is about managing and manipulating the background and foreground."

I agree.


"Website is not a canvas."

I disagree. Of course websites are canvases. They’re are portals to information but also a visual platfrom for digital media.


"It is not the image you’re looking at. It is a bunch of scripts that manipulating the pixels, which also manage the successful interpretation between the server’s and client’s issues (browser, security, and so on... )"

The image is not the architecture, obviously. It is however, vitally important to a site’s success.
Why can a site not be conceived as a design idea or an artistic expression? Why can a site not be beautiful and expressive as well as functional? Functionality, security etc have to be solid and stable, of course - but a site has to have some visual appeal and interest...otherwise it’ll be easily forgotten.


"MODx is a website’s content management."

I know. Again, that’s why I’m posting here.


"Yes, you can put your CSS into its template, easily.
But again, you should understand the script you’re using, or you might break the content."

Thank you. That’s what I needed to know. Yes, I know I should understand the script. That’s why I’m asking questions - to learn.

Thank you for your help so far. I know I’m ’only a graphic designer’, but I see that as a vastly important part of Website creation - not something to be swept under the carpet. Maybe next time I ask something, someone could reply without snobbery or sarcasm.

JB

Quote from: jackburley at Jun 25, 2010, 04:08 AM

Thank you for your help so far. I know I’m ’only a graphic designer’, but I see that as a vastly important part of Website creation - not something to be swept under the carpet. Maybe next time I ask something, someone could reply without snobbery or sarcasm.
JB

OK, this one first.
I wasn’t meant to be snobbery or sarcasm. Sorry if I sound that way.
But from your reply, looks like I hit your toe for being a designer.

Quote from: jackburley at Jun 25, 2010, 04:08 AM

"Yes, you can put your CSS into its template, easily.
But again, you should understand the script you’re using, or you might break the content."
Thank you. That’s what I needed to know. Yes, I know I should understand the script. That’s why I’m asking questions - to learn.

Cool.

Quote from: jackburley at Jun 25, 2010, 04:08 AM

"Website is not a canvas."
I disagree. Of course websites are canvases. They’re are portals to information but also a visual platform for digital media.

"It is not the image you’re looking at. It is a bunch of scripts that manipulating the pixels, which also manage the successful interpretation between the server’s and client’s issues (browser, security, and so on... )"
The image is not the architecture, obviously. It is however, vitally important to a site’s success.
Why can a site not be conceived as a design idea or an artistic expression? Why can a site not be beautiful and expressive as well as functional? Functionality, security etc have to be solid and stable, of course - but a site has to have some visual appeal and interest...otherwise it’ll be easily forgotten.

This part is debatable to the end of the world, but honestly, I’m a usability believer.
When you’re making the site for yourself, you can do everything.
But if you start to sell your service to someone else, then you (we) must consider about their needs, and of course (not all, but part of) our identity.
Try to think wider, it’s not all about the applause from the spectator.
I know some sites that have been deliberally ignore the common rules of site usability.
They are good. They are damn good.
But again, the visitor would be very limited, because they are not meant for backward technology.
Some part of the world are still using Dial Up.

So, back to the SG3 TOPIC.
It just doesn’t suit with the content management.
But again, I don’t know further, since I’ve never used it.

PS:
Trust me. I’m a designer as well.
Have try GIMP?