<![CDATA[ MODX, the GPL and me - My Forums]]> https://forums.modx.com/thread/?thread=6383 <![CDATA[Re: MODX, the GPL and me]]> https://forums.modx.com/thread/6383/modx-the-gpl-and-me?page=3#dis-post-412864
Lets say I that I used MODx as it is, and that all my modifications were in terms of CMPs, Snippets, Chunks, Custom Resource Classes, and Templates. You mean that the only way to protect the whole product to be resold is to put those modifications in non-GPL licenses (I understood from previous posts that I can license that kind of modifications in the way I want)?

The problem is that if I want to give away to the community for example that Custom Resource Class, that'd be incompatible with the new licenses I used to protect the product. I guess there is not a way to protect from redistribution (with or without retribution) a single product as a whole, giving the possibility to share some parts of your modifications.

Thank you again for your time.]]> DiegoBM Feb 21, 2012, 09:26 AM https://forums.modx.com/thread/6383/modx-the-gpl-and-me?page=3#dis-post-412864 <![CDATA[Re: MODx, the GPL and me]]> https://forums.modx.com/thread/6383/modx-the-gpl-and-me?page=3#dis-post-412741
Thanks for writing to clarify. In the first case, you're free to do so, but you now wholly own the support for that instance, since it's not something that anyone would otherwise know the extent of what was done. In essence, it's a fork of MODX, and not something that the source project should be obligated to support.

In your second case, the way MODX is licensed means that once you distribute it to a client, they're free to do as they wish with it. That means they could charge folks to install it and distribute it to someone else, who in turn could distribute it in the same manner, or even give it away for free. This is because you modified the core MODX application. The GPL places no restrictions on charging for software, but does offer protection for redistribution rights of either modified or non-modified GPL'd software (for anyone that receives a distribution).

Had you used public APIs to accomplish the same results, you could have licensed the functionality in a non-GPL manner and that would have been within the spirit and letter of the law, at least in the way that we interpret it at MODX.]]> rethrash Feb 20, 2012, 01:58 PM https://forums.modx.com/thread/6383/modx-the-gpl-and-me?page=3#dis-post-412741 <![CDATA[Re: MODx, the GPL and me]]> https://forums.modx.com/thread/6383/modx-the-gpl-and-me?page=2#dis-post-412671
First. Let's say that I've created a full portal using MODx. I've deployed a really agressive customization in the manager and I have changed all MODx logos from the manager because the client wants to see his very own logos, but I keep a Powered by MODx message in the footer or "About" area. Am I ok with MODx requierements?

Second. Even though I don't mind to spare my modifications, I've spent a lot of time customizing MODx for that single client. Given that I'm aware that I need to distribute my modifications' source code with the product itself, and that I cannot avoid the client to use MODx's core. Am I in my right to avoid the client to make money for the modifications that I made? I mean, Is the client allowed to re-sale (making money for it) or redistribute the site I made for him? Or can I avoid him to redistribute the whole product (assuming that he can still separate the MODx core from the product and do whatever he wants with it, but not redistribute it with my modifications not related with the core)?

Sorry for this long post. I tried to depict the scenarios as detailed as possible.

Regards!]]> DiegoBM Feb 20, 2012, 05:53 AM https://forums.modx.com/thread/6383/modx-the-gpl-and-me?page=2#dis-post-412671 <![CDATA[Re: MODx, the GPL and me]]> https://forums.modx.com/thread/6383/modx-the-gpl-and-me?page=2#dis-post-40069 eiventeleiron Jun 08, 2011, 12:23 AM https://forums.modx.com/thread/6383/modx-the-gpl-and-me?page=2#dis-post-40069 <![CDATA[Re: MODx, the GPL and me]]> https://forums.modx.com/thread/6383/modx-the-gpl-and-me?page=2#dis-post-40068
Under the license would it be possible for hosting companies to offer custom templates and automatic site creation/hosting Modx?]]> dhilden May 06, 2010, 08:37 AM https://forums.modx.com/thread/6383/modx-the-gpl-and-me?page=2#dis-post-40068 <![CDATA[Re: MODx, the GPL and me]]> https://forums.modx.com/thread/6383/modx-the-gpl-and-me?page=2#dis-post-40067 Quote from: doze at Dec 29, 2006, 09:51 AM

I can do one in Gibberish..
I’ll start work on a 1337 translation laugh]]> sirlancelot May 04, 2007, 06:06 PM https://forums.modx.com/thread/6383/modx-the-gpl-and-me?page=2#dis-post-40067 <![CDATA[Re: MODx, the GPL and me]]> https://forums.modx.com/thread/6383/modx-the-gpl-and-me?page=2#dis-post-40066 Quote from: rthrash at May 04, 2007, 12:08 AM
You’re a dev shop and remove all traces of MODx and where it came from from the manager. You present it to your clients as your own, proprietary application, giving no credit back to it’s original authors. Make sense?
Oh right, yes. You’re talking about rebranding the backend not anything to do with the frontend.

Well I certainly don’t intend to do that, there is more than enough work to do getting the front end right without making more work for myself by re-writing a perfectly good (and tested) back end. Any way credit were credits due I say, I have only been working with MODx for 6 weeks now (and 4 of those were spent making mod_rewrite work) and I am very impressed. Of course the system is scarily powerful and configurable but I expect I’ll get used to that.

Thank You]]> Banfa May 04, 2007, 03:37 AM https://forums.modx.com/thread/6383/modx-the-gpl-and-me?page=2#dis-post-40066 <![CDATA[Re: MODx, the GPL and me]]> https://forums.modx.com/thread/6383/modx-the-gpl-and-me?page=2#dis-post-40065
You’re a dev shop and remove all traces of MODx and where it came from from the manager. You present it to your clients as your own, proprietary application, giving no credit back to it’s original authors. Make sense?]]> rethrash May 03, 2007, 07:08 PM https://forums.modx.com/thread/6383/modx-the-gpl-and-me?page=2#dis-post-40065 <![CDATA[Re: MODx, the GPL and me]]> https://forums.modx.com/thread/6383/modx-the-gpl-and-me?page=2#dis-post-40064 Quote from: rthrash at Dec 18, 2006, 03:26 PM

Ethics (Spirit of the Law)
[*] If you make changes to MODx, please share them back with the community. If you choose not to do so, or try to hide the fact a site is running MODx behind an authenticated Manager login, we simply ask that you abstain from using the support forums for any reason whatsoever. In my personal view, the GPL is not about support, but about sharing.
With reference to this bullet point would you mind explaining (or giving an example of (or both)) the snippet "try to hide the fact a site is running MODx behind an authenticated Manager login".

I have to add that it is only with the last year that I have managed to get a basic understanding of how the GPL actually works (for several years I wondered how people could make a living giving their software away and then for several more years I ignored the issue) and that it is about being open and making source available and not anything to do with money.

I would just like to make sure that I am not breaking any laws (spiritually or legally) before going live with any sites laugh]]> Banfa May 03, 2007, 04:34 PM https://forums.modx.com/thread/6383/modx-the-gpl-and-me?page=2#dis-post-40064 <![CDATA[Re: MODx, the GPL and me]]> https://forums.modx.com/thread/6383/modx-the-gpl-and-me?page=2#dis-post-40063 I hope he’ll make a sticky topic in the German forum out of it.
[EDIT]As netnoise asked me to, I posted it to the German forum myself. Task accomplished wink[/EDIT]]]> silent Dec 29, 2006, 08:49 AM https://forums.modx.com/thread/6383/modx-the-gpl-and-me?page=2#dis-post-40063