<![CDATA[ Wordpress is the Devil... - My Forums]]> https://forums.modx.com/thread/?thread=19633 <![CDATA[Re: Wordpress is the Devil...]]> https://forums.modx.com/thread/19633/wordpress-is-the-devil?page=4#dis-post-108830 Quote from: redtoad at Mar 23, 2011, 03:25 AM

Bob Ray... my reply is a blog. Seriously.

http://www.alistapart.com/articles/understandingwebdesign/

cheers smiley

I’ve written similar blog posts a number of times -- but only in my head. wink
]]> BobRay Mar 23, 2011, 02:07 AM https://forums.modx.com/thread/19633/wordpress-is-the-devil?page=4#dis-post-108830 <![CDATA[Re: Wordpress is the Devil...]]> https://forums.modx.com/thread/19633/wordpress-is-the-devil?page=4#dis-post-108829
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/understandingwebdesign/

cheers smiley]]> redtoad Mar 22, 2011, 10:25 PM https://forums.modx.com/thread/19633/wordpress-is-the-devil?page=4#dis-post-108829 <![CDATA[Re: Wordpress is the Devil...]]> https://forums.modx.com/thread/19633/wordpress-is-the-devil?page=4#dis-post-108828 Everettg_99 Mar 12, 2011, 12:57 PM https://forums.modx.com/thread/19633/wordpress-is-the-devil?page=4#dis-post-108828 <![CDATA[Re: Wordpress is the Devil...]]> https://forums.modx.com/thread/19633/wordpress-is-the-devil?page=4#dis-post-108827 Quote from: mregan at Mar 12, 2011, 01:21 AM

Modx makes it easy to integrate WP into rest of the site and we charge a nice fat fee for making the custom theme.

Haven’t tried this before, but does that mean you have to login to modx for site admin, and log in separately to WP to add blog entries? Or can it be done with just one login and a way to switch between CMS.

Also, doesn’t that mean you end up doing twice the work as you have to code up templates for two systems? Or does it save time by taking advantage of WP’s ’out of the box’ blog functionality]]> okyanet Mar 12, 2011, 03:37 AM https://forums.modx.com/thread/19633/wordpress-is-the-devil?page=4#dis-post-108827 <![CDATA[Re: Wordpress is the Devil...]]> https://forums.modx.com/thread/19633/wordpress-is-the-devil?page=4#dis-post-108826
Yes - I think it is a pain to theme. Mainly because I don’t do it often enough to be good at it. Basically - I have to go and look up all the ’hooks’ I need each time I start coding.

However, on the plus side, Modx makes it easy to integrate WP into rest of the site and we charge a nice fat fee for making the custom theme. We just do the blog specific stuff in WP, things like menus and all the other pages on the site are handled by Modx, which makes site maintenance ’dead easy’.]]> mregan Mar 11, 2011, 07:21 PM https://forums.modx.com/thread/19633/wordpress-is-the-devil?page=4#dis-post-108826 <![CDATA[Re: Wordpress is the Devil...]]> https://forums.modx.com/thread/19633/wordpress-is-the-devil?page=4#dis-post-108825
I often visit big-name corporate websites where the design is pretty and the underlying code is fine, but the UI is horrendous. A lot of sites would benefit from having the UI planned by neither the developer, nor the designer.]]> BobRay Mar 08, 2011, 09:04 PM https://forums.modx.com/thread/19633/wordpress-is-the-devil?page=4#dis-post-108825 <![CDATA[Re: Wordpress is the Devil...]]> https://forums.modx.com/thread/19633/wordpress-is-the-devil?page=4#dis-post-108824
for instance, the main reason WP is so friendly has to do with the type styling and sizes in the UI. Type styling is -huge-. That and the simplified, more hub and spoke type menus. They are not visually overwhelming. It doesn’t inspire fear. It -seems- simpler. We know it isn’t. But you have to step outside yourself and think like a Luddite.

When you work with clients who are actually intimidated by Facebook, this is a huge..huge ....huge issue. I am working with a professional firm right now but the Partners are intimidated by UIs easily. They’re smart, well-off people who use software daily, but they are easily overwhelmed by new interfaces. It doesn’t matter how great something is built if the person buying the product can’t use it...for whatever reason.

The other big plus WP offers is its easy SEO optimization ...which is almost scarily simple. They’ve gotten good press for it and rightly so, but MODx offers ways to make SEO much much more flexible than WP and there isn’t a lot of info out there about it. But a client wants to rank high and all they know is... we want WP. Because they’ve heard of it.

Bottom line is, educating clients and spreading MODx "propaganda" is the best thing you can do to avoid painful rebuilds and WP hacks. The revolution starts with us.



]]> redtoad Mar 08, 2011, 08:05 PM https://forums.modx.com/thread/19633/wordpress-is-the-devil?page=4#dis-post-108824 <![CDATA[Re: Wordpress is the Devil...]]> https://forums.modx.com/thread/19633/wordpress-is-the-devil?page=4#dis-post-108823 Everettg_99 Mar 08, 2011, 05:04 PM https://forums.modx.com/thread/19633/wordpress-is-the-devil?page=4#dis-post-108823 <![CDATA[Re: Wordpress is the Devil...]]> https://forums.modx.com/thread/19633/wordpress-is-the-devil?page=3#dis-post-108822

This is why I’ve looked at Revo with a critical eye even though I like it - it’s moving more towards code, not away, IMO. While that’s certainly one valid approach, I’m sure that many designers will balk at it, and clients, too. I could be wrong, but I don’t think many designers are in on the building of Revo, mainly just programmers. That’s what it looks like to me.

I can see where you are coming from on that. I think we will see Revo improve in terms of usability and design in future versions. Evo didn’t get to where it is overnight and I think its just a matter of time and effort before Revo equals and surpasses it. But if you have concrete needs or suggestions, speak up. The guys are really open to (appropriate) suggestion and ...just know that it might mean helping out too. LOL. But that’s the beauty of collaboration and we all want to see the tools get better. I’m going to be working towards helping in that aspect as soon as I have a free minute, myself.

But I think that understanding that a core difference between WP and MODx is that there is a skill level difference in the core users is really key.]]> redtoad Mar 08, 2011, 12:37 PM https://forums.modx.com/thread/19633/wordpress-is-the-devil?page=3#dis-post-108822 <![CDATA[Re: Wordpress is the Devil...]]> https://forums.modx.com/thread/19633/wordpress-is-the-devil?page=3#dis-post-108821 way it works.]]> redtoad Mar 08, 2011, 12:28 PM https://forums.modx.com/thread/19633/wordpress-is-the-devil?page=3#dis-post-108821