Answered Permissions for MODx setup files and folders

Hello everybody!
I'm uploading MODx setup files zipped in archive to my hosting.
When I unzip files via hosting file manager all files have 777 (rwx-rwx-rwx) permissions.
Is it normal?

I would say it's ok - maybe you could set it to 775 for folders and 664 for files - this should be enough.

Quote from: Tyreal2012 at Dec 04, 2012, 11:28 AM

No - its not normal, All of your folders should extract to 755 and files should extract to 644 - right out of the install - are you running any form of chmod when you are uploading?

I've ran many installs and have never come accross this, both via pure ftp upload or SSH

No. I don't. Just upload and unzip files. Seems this relies on hosting configuration. I'll should contact support. Thank you!

It depends on the host, but by default it's safer to assume 0755. If with 0755 you don't have access to the files from for instance the Manager, you can set it to 0777... or move hosts

It's a royal pain in the behind in my experience to manage a site that does not run phpsuexec or similar to let you use files normally from both FTP and PHP, without making it all world writable.

Quote from: Tyreal2012 at Dec 04, 2012, 11:28 AM

No - its not normal, All of your folders should extract to 755 and files should extract to 644 - right out of the install - are you running any form of chmod when you are uploading?

There is no "normal" behavior - it simply depends on host (FTP/Apache) settings.

It can also depend on the settings of your FTP client. For example, I've attached a screenshot of the Cyberduck Preferences -> Transfers -> Permissions window. You can change the permissions on download or on upload here.

On installation, MODx has a form for setting the preferred permissions for its own file handling. I've never been able to find how to change this after installation, though.

In some cases, when a server extracts an archive it will change all files and folders to match that of the uploaded archive file, or to keep the permissions they had when they were archived. Or, in some cases, a server will change file permissions to what it wants, no matter what you may do. All that depends on the server configuration.

The wrong permission settings can do anything from 404 not found errors, to 403 forbidden/permission denied errors to 500 server errors or 503 service unavailable errors. I've seen all of these and a few more unexpected and unexplained errors.

Quote from: gadgetto at Dec 05, 2012, 01:34 AM

Quote from: Tyreal2012 at Dec 04, 2012, 11:28 AM

No - its not normal, All of your folders should extract to 755 and files should extract to 644 - right out of the install - are you running any form of chmod when you are uploading?

There is no "normal" behavior - it simply depends on host (FTP/Apache) settings.

Good job i'm not normal then

Quote from: sottwell at Dec 05, 2012, 02:00 AM

On installation, MODx has a form for setting the preferred permissions for its own file handling. I've never been able to find how to change this after installation, though.

Hi Susan,

System Settings -> File System - new_file_permissions and new_folder_permissions

Greetings,
Martin

Quote from: sottwell at Dec 05, 2012, 02:00 AM

It can also depend on the settings of your FTP client. For example, I've attached a screenshot of the Cyberduck Preferences -> Transfers -> Permissions window. You can change the permissions on download or on upload here.

On installation, MODx has a form for setting the preferred permissions for its own file handling. I've never been able to find how to change this after installation, though.

In some cases, when a server extracts an archive it will change all files and folders to match that of the uploaded archive file, or to keep the permissions they had when they were archived. Or, in some cases, a server will change file permissions to what it wants, no matter what you may do. All that depends on the server configuration.

The wrong permission settings can do anything from 404 not found errors, to 403 forbidden/permission denied errors to 500 server errors or 503 service unavailable errors. I've seen all of these and a few more unexpected and unexplained errors.

I didn't hear about CyberDuck. Looks like it is very helpful. Is it OpenSource or freeware?


Quote from: gadgetto at Dec 05, 2012, 02:24 AM

System Settings -> File System - new_file_permissions and new_folder_permissions

I've also found on web that it is possible to change new file and folder permissions via System Settings. But in fact there is no such options in my MODx (2.2.5-pl)
Reffering to MODx dashboard it is also possible to change that options programmaticaly, but I've never tested it.
Also it is possible to run MODx Setup with advanced reinstall options and change file and folder permissions there.